Home 9.5 16 Multi-gauge 17.5 28 Pix Miscellany
29th July
Re Danson; actually, what I said two days ago is not strictly correct. I do, of course, have a working amp from the first projector we worked on. Sound was OK but proj was
definitely slow. Put it in with my mech with the new belt and Whizzo! Bags of speed - had to crank it down a good bit - and volume, much of it achieved, interestingly, by
turning up the tone control, which had more impact than I am used to finding. Only problem is the mech is making a rhythmic noise. I did notice the shutter was scraping a
bit
when I had it apart. I am not sure I want to go back in and look any further, as
I have no plan for extended use.
So now we know:-
a)
the amps can work well;
b) the speed problem is probably the belt; the one I replaced is fine in
terms of rot/durablity,
but appears to have stiffened up and has slight kinks/bends in it. I think these two factors, plus
maybe
a bit stretching, account for the low speed achieved;
c) replacing the belt is likely to mean replacing the flywheel, too.
27th July
Bin trying to fix up another Danson now I've sorted the flywheel problem. If only I could get the amp to work, I could test it in the one with the repaired flywheel. But I can't.
Here
is the first reference I've ever seen to converting an H to sound. Does anyone
have any pictures/details?
25th July
Has anyone ever actually seen one of these? Did it ever go into production? It's obviously very similar in appearance to the Pathé Vox, but why
would they want to copy that?
24th July
Dino Everett has sent a very early Baby catalogue, for Xmas/New Year 1922/3. He points out that there aren't actually any missing film numbers, possibly
making it unique amongst Pathé lists.
23rd July
Have been playing with Dansons again. Lot of additional material and pix, so the Danson now has its own page. There's a fair bit about Dansons in old projector amps,
but I've repeated the relevant bits on the Danson page.
22nd July
Came across an interesting reference, in the same ACW for Dec 37, I think. It points out that, for a 200B using a blanking plate, a simple way to ensure the lamp
is switched off during rewinding is to get a spare blanking plate and remove the centre pin, covering up with insulating tape. I never thought of that. Perhaps
one could go further and make a new blanking plate substitute which would have a switch in it to connect or disconnect the lamp circuit...........
21st July
I have found in ACW for December 1936 an ad and a sort of review of the Peerless.
The same ad also refers to the SP Wundatone, a 16mm sound machine with intermittent sprocket. I had part of one once, many, many years ago,
but not the skill to do anything with it.
18th July
Now for a spot of Luxury (pun intended).
Regulars will know I have been meaning to get in touch with my inner Lux. I have been spurred into activity by Dino Everett in the States, who has what clearly declares itself
to be a Lux YD, a thing of which I have never before heard. The most striking characteristic of the YD is the gate, which at last does away with those horrid rear springs with
a self-contained, self-sprung, fully removable gate! Here are his pix.
What a shame it never had sprockets. Anyway, this means we now have at least four variants of the Lux:-
the original YA with small lamphouse and nasty Mazac gate
one I shall call the YB tho' I don't think it was ever formally designated as such, still with small lamphouse, but with a pressed steel gate and some changes to the mech
the YC, with bigger lamphouse, steel gate and totally new notching mech
the YD, as above, with sprauncy metal gate wot comes out to clean.
Let's do some more pix. First, here is a basic YA.
As you can see, the YB has that additional plate in front of the claw.
The YC seems to revert to the YA style in the first pic, but note that the lower disc in the YA claw box (which determines the length of a stop for a notch) is missing.
Instead, there is the arrangement on the right. Pic 2 shows the back of it. Look at the large gear wheel - on the same shaft is a worm, and above the worm on the
left is what I call the "follower". This is very similar to the Baby mech; the follower engages with the worm and moves across to the right, compressing the spring
seen in Pic 1, RH side. A pin on the end of the worm throws the follower off and the spring takes it back to the start. A close-up of the follower is at pic 5 above.
I haven't yet figured out how the notching mech is initiated or, indeed, why this particular one is not actually working. This is a subject I will inevitably return to
as I learn more. All I have on the YD so far is shown above.
Although I have given up on 16mm features, I seem to have a number of silents and shorts in need of repair. I have therefore modified my 16mm splicer to help.
First, I removed the blade as I find it is all too easy to cut the film as well,
and
now
just use a craft knife or single-sided razor-like thing. In order to help with
sprocket repair, I have added the extra spools of pre-perforated tape. These are on a cantilever so I can still get the film to the splicer. I won't
know until I've used it a bit whether it would be better to have the cantilever the other way round. The support is, of course, made of Meccano (TM)
- why make if you have the wherewithal to hand? The tape spools are deliberately left very free, so either can be brought into position. My final
mod is hard to see, so I have marked the ends in red. Basically, it is a strip of metal about 3mm from the front edge of the film bed. I pull tape out
with a very small-bladed screwdriver and lay it across the sprockets on the front edge. The metal strip then provides an edge against which I can cut
the tape at a convenient size to give a wrap-round. This sort of repair is useful because it does not encroach on the picture area, and I use it on most gauges.
More now added to the Care, Repair and Restoration section; this is about "detailing" a projector - cleaning up and presenting for display.
16th July
Bin too hot to do much on the cine front. However, past activity, the which you were not aware of ('cos I didn't tell you), has resulted in the new section now added
to Care and Repair, on old projector amps, on which Paul Schimmel has been advising me. Please read this first if you get hold of an
old sound machine BEFORE YOU PLUG IT IN.
1st June
Been looking at http://users.telenet.be/frank.ttt/, which has pix of things I never knew of, eg a 16mm Noris like the 9.5 and 8mm ones, what looks like an American
version of an H, very early Heurtier tri-gauge and a Bolex G3 rip-off. Loads of stuff also on phonographs, old radio's, film gauges etc. It's in Dutch, but I don't speak it
and still found all them pix fascinating. Some info on the early 17.5 film gauges. Add this to the 16/17.5 comparison and the multi-gauge comparison and you have
an overview of most of the amateur gauges.
30th June
Bin away - wedding of No. 2 daughter.
More stuff from Dave Richardson. The really sprauncy one, the Titra, cost almost as much as a projector. Then a cover for a Pathescope catlog, which
Pete Diggle has and dates to Summer 1935. More here.
23rd June
I don't think I've looked at this site before - lots and lots of pix of projectors and stuff.
22nd June
Converting Cyldon 16mm reels to 9.5
In another typical
example of my butterfly mind, I have for no good reason (except that I found it
interesting), been looking at co
nverting
Cyldon 16mm spools to 9.5.
I did two, a 1600’ and an 800’ and, of course, I found that it’s harder than I thought. One major tricky bit in reel conversion is ensuring that the sides, and the circular
surface on which the film sits, are accurately and concentrically placed in relation to the centre. I have difficulty coming up with ideas to achieve this other than a solid
core of the appropriate diameter. Consider the Cyldon reel, which is actually quite clever. There is a central core 2" in diameter. It consists of two discs, pierced for the
spool spindle, spaced apart by four pillars, which also pass thru the side cheeks and are then peened over, rather like riveting, to hold everything together. The surface
on which the film rests (let’s call it the film core) is only attached to the side cheeks, not to the central core. The film core is right next to the central core in the 800’
but an inch further out on the 1600’. The pix make all this much clearer; this one shows an unaltered 1600'.
The two discs referred to are dished in the centre, and the side cheeks have a large centre hole to fit over this. With this and the separate film core, it’s not easy to see how to
re-use them without a solid central core of the right diameter – 2 to 3 inches – which would be heavy or wasteful (and expensive) in material by making holes to lighten it.
(You should be aware that prices for metal and plastic get very silly when you are trying to buy them in small quantities.) I decided to experiment with tube material to keep the
weight (and price) down a bit, and found some in both aluminium and plastic with an inside diameter a bit smaller than 2" that I could bore out for a tight fit round the central core,
which I planned to re-use to circumvent the sort of problems outlined above. I drilled out the "rivets" on each side of the core with a drill about 4.8mm. This size is about right to
separate off the part of the riveting above the surface; don’t drill too deep because we want to re-use the pillars. Once the pillars are released in this way, you have to prise off
the film core; I usually try to get a screwdriver blade between film core and spool cheek and twist to force them apart. Damaging the film core is OK, but not the spool cheeks.
If you can’t get started, I have found that if you stand the reel vertically, you can hit the film core very hard without damaging or distorting the sides. I use a cold chisel,
but a heavy screwdriver would probably do. Once started, it’s easy to follow the gap around to prise the rest off.
In re-assembling, I gave very careful thought to appearance, mindful of those otherwise useful giant 8mm spools that were marred by huge nuts and bolts. I decided to go for 3mm screws,
my default size for a great many things. The heads are small enough to be unobtrusive, particularly with the flat, round-headed type. I originally wanted to use countersunk heads,
which could fit pretty much flush with the surface of the spool cheeks, but this didn’t work. The reason was that, in order to maintain accurate location, the adapted pillars had
to extend thru both the discs of the central core and the side cheeks, as a sort of registration pin. In the original, the rivets themselves were the right size (about 5mm), but
4 x 3mm screws thru holes in both discs and cheeks would leave a lot of room for slop and could easily leave the reel unbalanced. Trouble is, the side cheeks are only a bit over
#1mm thick and there is no room for both pillar and the taper of a countersunk head. I found the screws were not able to grip the sides firmly enough to the pillars because they
tightened against the
pillars first.

The new pillars are made from the old. They need to be trimmed down to a central length of 8.5mm approx, with 2mm extensions at each end,
trimmed down to about 4.7mm diameter. A hole is bored thru the centre and tapped with a 3mm metric thread. The picture left shows the component
parts of the 800' conversion, first assembled then apart.. For the spindle core I followed exactly the pattern of those used on the 9.5mm 900’ fibre reels.
This fits neatly into the 16mm holes in the central core. Note only 3 of the 4 pillars are visible - one is still in one of the discs.
For the 1600’ spool, I used black acetal (a kind of nylon, I think), in the form of a tube of about 3" external diameter and 1.75 internal. I bored this out to make a tight fit round the
central core – I didn’t really want to add more screws, tho’ I suspect I may have to. It still falls well inside where the original was, so I made sure to smooth off the holes where the
film core had been fixed, to avoid snagging the film. I normally attach film to spools by friction alone, especially those spools with larger cores. However, I did make a couple of
token saw cuts at an angle into the plastic that could take an end of film.
For the 800’, I used aluminium, with a much thinner wall. The 800’ original has cut-outs in the spool cheeks to enable film to be threaded into a slit in the film core. I decided to
provide such a slit but, as I was not planning to secure the film core other than by friction, I thought it best to put a strut across a chord of the film core before cutting the slit
(seen above left). In retrospect, I think it might be as well to fix the film core with screws – these could go thru the holes left by the original, tho’ they would have to be small
to fit into the thin metal of the film core. The actual width of the film core is about 11.5. This seems to me a bit wide but it matches the old Pathescope ones and, with a
straight-sided spool, it may be best to have a bit of leeway. The only remaining task is to drill holes in the right place to take the drive pin on the projector spindle.
Finally, here are the completed articles.
20th June
Another old catlog from Dave Richardson. I doubt this one will surface soon - doing what you see here took hours.
18th June
Some splendid pictures of an American Premier Pathescope from Alain Gomet. It is in superb condition, with original packing case and instruction book and a classy, brassy
switch with separate controls for lamp and motor. It also has a lamp resistance, something I have not previously come across; presumably it travelled in the upright
position and was lowered for use.
8th June
Thanks to Pete Diggle, who has sent in this pic of an early (1917ish) 35mm and some pages from what looks to be a fascinating book.
7th June
Does anyone know if there is any difference between the 12v lamps sold for low-voltage lighting and the ones sold as Class A1 projection lamps? I suspect there could be differences in light output, life and filament position, but have no evidence or info.
I ask because I've been fiddling with a lamp conversion for a Pathé 28mm KOK, using a ceramic lampholder which will take 12v 35 -100w lamps and maybe higher wattage.
Pic 1 shows the KOK lamphouse "cap" which slides onto the front part of the lamphouse, which is fixed to the projector. (This is a "mains" model; no dynamo, smaller crank handle and smaller pulley wheel at the rear). The lampholder is incorporated into the cap. The bit on the right screws into the tube in the cap and incorporates a spring-loaded lower contact. This part is not used in this conversion.
There is very little room to do anything; getting the lamp at the right height is hard enough. As usual, I was constrained by my desire to avoid any changes to the original. I made the holder unit to fit into the existing tube from the top, just as a lamp would be inserted; this enforced considerable miniaturisation. The unit is a force fit, basically wedged in rather then fixed with screws or whatever. In pic 3, you can see a short piece of brass rod, about 8mm in diameter. This has two thru holes which take the wires from the ceramic holder. One of these wires is cut off short, with the end stripped and folded over so that it wedges into its hole. This provides a contact thru to the terminal on the side of the lamphouse cap. Because the rod is smaller than the ceramic holder, the wires don't fit neatly and the ceramic holder flops about. This is therefore fixed in place with Araldite, so that the holder and brass rod are permanently joined and not floppy.
A third hole is drilled and tapped into the lower end of the brass rod. A screw (with its head much reduced in diameter) passed thru the teflon rod (see pic 4) and fixes it it to the brass rod. Another hole allows the second wire from the the ceramic holder to pass thru. As for the brass rod, a third hole is drilled and tapped into the lower end of the teflon rod. The wire connecting to the power supply, and the end of the second wire from the ceramic holder, are soldered into rough loops. A nylon screw then passes thru the two lops, thru a small spacer and into the threaded hole in the teflon rod. This keeps everything insulated. In practise, it's easier to fit the unit into the cap if the nylon screw is first removed, but that's not a major problem. The aluminium sleeve has a grub screw which grips onto the brass rod; this allows a bit of up/down adjustment. Unfortunately, the unit has to be removed to get at the grub screw.
Whilst this was fascinating to try to do, with all the figuring out and trial and error, I hope someone can come up with a better idea - if you can, I shall be happy to publish it here.
I've added part of another Pathé "programme" for 1933-34. It seems to be very much an austerity issue compared with the 1931-32 edition. (For some reason I can only link to the top of the page so you'll have to scroll down.)
1st June
These three additions to the Bing canon are courtesy Trevor Adams in NZ - I didn't even realise there WAS a clockwork Bing! The mech looks even more basic - no big gear! Where do all these collectors dig them up? I suppose they spend all their time on the internet and at car boot sales instead of keeping web sites up to date.
30th May
Baby Enlarger Attachment
I've never see even a photo of one of these before, just adverts. Dave R has done a splendid job in showing exactly what it is and how it works. The idea is you put some photo-sensitive film in the big end, to copy whatever frame you have in the gate. Exposure must have been trial and error. The only instructions available are in French. The two different slots are for the standard 30mm lens or the short-throw 26mm.
Baby Magnifier Attachment
This was supposed to approx double the size of the projected picture. What it must have done to the brightness, tho'.......
28th May
Been making a few changes to the front end and making a separate home for copies of all the French language material. Let me know if you spot any problems.
26th May
Variety is the spice of life. Guess who provided these?
23rd May
Maurice Trace, as I mentioned earlier, is currently researching Pathex; here is one of his "finds". I've started to put all Pathex stuff in a new page. Dave Richardson has slipped and allowed a Kid thru, and tried to sneak in a 1953 projector (produced for one year only, he says), on the grounds it's labelled Baby. I think the motor leaflet was mine.
21st May
I know you like inside bits, so here is a Baby camera motor, courtesy Tony Reypert.
20th May
More from David Richardson. Pathex was obviously not just a brand name for the US. Most of the lamp boxes are his, too. My version of the early 1:1 rewinder is not in such good condition. There are there other versions of the notching device that I have seen - why on earth did they make so many versions of the same thing? The penultimate pic pic is a thing I have not come across before - I believe it puts the clips into the centre of Baby cassettes to hold the film - see final pic.
Now some motor details. In order these are an early "B" type; the later "B" type; the 1922 "R" type; early "S" type from 1926; 1928 French "S" type; 1928 "S" type; 1929 "S"; the "C" type from 1930. The last three pix show how the semi-automatic speed control worked; when the motor tried to speed up at a notch (mech stopped, therefore no load), the inner weights shown in the second of these pix would tend to fly out, so increasing braking force.
My most recent activity has been with 16mm machines. I have a B&H 643, quite a late version I believe, manual threading, incandescent lamp (valve-type base), optical and magnetic. Given that the projector looks quite well used, I was amazed to see an original worm, looking to be in perfect condition and allowing the projector to purr along quietly. I was so impressed I changed that dreadful Jones plug input for a Euro-plug type. They really did not want people bypassing their work. There are, of course, 4 pins to a Jones plug; this is quite unnecessary, as all it means is there are two live input pins. Inside, the colours of the wires seem designed deliberately to confuse, not corresponding to any of the usual colour codes. Once you remove the original receptacle, the holes are of course in the wrong place for a replacement. What I did was to make a flat plate the same size as the original receptacle, and offset the euro plug (I always find this confusing) to one side. It is secured by one of the original screws and by a screw into an extra hole in the plate. The other original screw fits as before. I had to slightly file out a couple of holes is all. I can't even be bothered to photograph sucha dull amchine. Incidentally, I think the extension speaker sockets are also a weird type. so I'll have to replace them, too.
Here is a much more interesting proposition. It's a genuine Debrie double band machine, but it looks like it's been used in a lab or some such, as there seem to have been many changes to input/output plugs and wiring. It even has an additional, half normal size sprocket on the projector side. There are micro-switch controlled rollers at the front. It has substantial, proper sprocket retaining rollers, and a chimney on top. Also variations to the oil circulation system and a very unusual gate. Obviously a chequered career.
18th May
A Pathé Cockerel which I have copied and cleaned up 'cos I like the highly stylised look.
Some ads and extracts from Pathescope Monthly dredged up by David Richardson.
11th May
The mystery object was correctly identified by Terry Vacani. It is a Peerless 9.5. Almost exactly the same machine was also sold as the Triplico, in two models, the Junior for 9.5 only and the Senior for 8 & 16 as well. I have no decent pix of the Triplico, which seems to have a much more enclosed mechanism, at least in its tri-gauge version, but is otherwise the same. Any good pix or a decent copy/scan of instructions would be most welcome. Here it is after re-assembly from bits and a bit of tidying up.
I actually got it working finally, but it was a bit of a struggle, and the pic was poor and lacking focus. The Mazac issue caused several problems. The mech would barely fit back into the body without jamming up and the pic was out of focus across the screen, both due I suspect to Mazac distortion. The other big problem was that only one of the sprockets had a rim. Whether I put the rimmed one top or bottom it caused problems as the film just wandered off the sprockets. The sprocket was actually about 14mm wide, and the film retaining rollers just sat on it, doing nothing to guide the film. Because of the width of the sprocket, washers would not work so I came up with the approach illustrated. The brass bits on the top sprocket fit round and over the edges of the sprocket. Being slightly greater diameter than the sprocket, they guide both the film and the retaining rollers and correct the problem. Framing is a bit by lever but the rest by rotating the bottom sprocket until the limited range of the lever can come into play. The only other option, making a new sprocket, is beyond me.
I have a lot more to say about this but I am, you will be glad to hear, keeping it for a special piece.
David Richardson seems to be an unending source of rare material. Here is a catalogue issued by Pathex in America.
While we're on the subject of Pathex, can I request any material or information anyone may have? Maurice Trace is researching Pathex and needs info. Also, note Pathexor lens 2nd May below and this (once more from Dave Richardson).
I've cheated a bit on the blurb by mocking up an English-only version; I saw no reason to tidy up a load of foreign stuff to give you the whole thing.
Anyone for a Giant Baby? Spotted on French ebay by Dave Richardson. It seems to be a prototype that never went further. It also has a special lamphouse with bigger condenser and more powerful lamp; this was an attachment available for the normal-size Baby.
2nd May
How can I not have looked at this site before? Lots of amazing stuff for the real techie on film, stocks, colour, Kinemacolor and other colour systems etc etc. Visit.
www.brianpritchard.com/Kinemacolor%20Project.htm
David Richardson has been at it again. This apparently does the same job as the cone-shaped Pathé Magnifier lens. The third pic shows a Pathexor Krauss lens, one of two better-quality lenses available for the Baby, the fourth other, the Hermagis.
And this is more stuff about the water-cooled condenser set-up. It seems to have been made by a company called Mollier, and come in two versions. First was a new lamphouse to give a brighter light from a new lamp and condenser lens, tho'
the voltage and wattage of the lamp seem a bit unclear. The second or "Super" version had the water-cooled jacket. Partly because it's not always clear from my knowledge or not of technical French, and partly because all we have to work on is an extract from a French equivalent of a Wallace Heaton Blue Book, everything else is less than clear, too. The text seems to imply that there is an automatic voltage reduction for still frames, to prevent heat damage to the film. However, looking at the pic shows no way this could happen and Dave can't see how either, despite having got one of them. We shall have to find more info.
28th April
Dave Humphrey has reminded me of www.paulivester.com (click on films when you get there) and also pointed me at www.film-tech.com, which has manuals and stuff, tho' mainly American and modern.
22nd April
I have added some more pix, with measurements, to the 28mm rewind bit below.
This week's mystery object is:-
My theory is that, if I can find a way of putting it together with the various bits shown in the pix below, I shall get a projector.
8th April
Then I got the dreaded stomach bug at Easter and have been steamrollered since. However, this I had mostly done before incapacity set in.
Having acquired some tatty KOK carcasses, I suddenly started to wonder if I could find a way to fit a rewind. The originals are nearly always non-functional, even if they are present – the rewind gear with internal teeth is Mazac and distorts. Oddly, however, the similar arrangement on my 17.5 rewinder seems fine. I have heard that someone in France had a batch of these wheels made up years ago; even then, they were £50 or similar – it must be quite difficult to make internal teeth. So I decided to see what I could do, with the usual proviso that nothing I did should make holes or whatever in the projector and it should be possible to undo it all without harming the machine and restore the status quo ante.
This is what I came up with. It’s quite complicated, and I have thought of several other ways of doing it as I’ve gone along. For instance, if one could acquire a toothed belt of exactly the right length and tooth spacing, it might be possible to glue this to the inside of a part made up to look like the original rewind. Or maybe a toothed wheel in the rewind pivot hole and a toothed belt to another on the spool spindle, tho’ it would be difficult to get a very high gear ratio. No doubt there are other possibilities.
The heart of the new rewind is the cross with two arms, centre bottom of first pic. This is made up from a piece of steel about 8mm thick, partly cut away at each end to accept the cross pieces, which are screwed to the upright. This assembly is held to the back of the steel plate, top, with a couple of countersunk screws thru holes A in the plate into threaded holes AT. The plate has two large, over-lapping cut-outs B for the spool spindle bearing and the rewind pivot on the KOK. You may by now have noticed that the location of holes in the plate is not all that precise, partly because I was making it up as I went along and not always getting it quite right. A particular problem was to ensure that there was sufficient range of adjustment to allow the belt to be tensioned correctly (we come to the belt later). For the same reason, holes B are oversize. Note also the bent-up tabs E; these are to locate and fix the cover for the new mechanism.
The main job of holding all this together is done by the four bolts shown, which pass thru holes C in the plate and the cross arms and into threaded holes in the round bars. The plate goes at the back of the machine, the round bars at the front. These bars have cut-outs to fit over the edge ribs of the casting of the back upright of the KOK. Tightening these screws grips the upright between the plate and the bars, with the main rewind upright fitting between the raised ribs on the rear of the KOK casting. It’s easier with pictures. I opted for round bars rather than square bars or plate for appearance and minimising the cutting needed to fit around the ribs on the KOK casting (the ribs are best seen in third pic from last). I wanted a snug fit here to ensure the fitting would not foul the projector reels.
The rewind upright has a threaded hole. This takes a fixed shaft on which fits a large toothed wheel (pic 2). This is free to rotate on the shaft, held in the right location by a pin riding in a groove in the shaft (see pic 4). The pin is spring-loaded, the spring being held in place by a grub-screw. The pulley wheel has a sort of one-way dog clutch, which engages the winding handle (a fugitive from a defunct 9.5 rewinder) only for rewinding. At other times, the handle is pushed back out of engagement by a spring (pic 5). A smaller toothed wheel fits on a replica spool spindle. Just to show the sort of thing that goes on in one's head, I realised a spring was needed to ensure the handle got pushed back out of engagement, then realised that I would no longer need the spring-loaded pin, as the job of keeping the pulley in place would be done by the same spring that pushed the handle back. You can see in pic 5 the washer and screw for the end of the shaft that would stop the handle coming off. Then I thought, why not make the handle loose/removable? In which case I needed the spring-loaded pin again.
I can’t see a way of removing the original gear on the spool spindle, so just made a new one, modified to suit my needs. I have shown in pic 3 a comparison between mine and an original, tho' I think this one has been tampered with - I don't think the screw thread on the end next to the gear is original. I did however borrow the original spool retaining spring and the collar/dog that engages the spool. I have to confess that I made a small tapped hole in this for a grub screw. A toothed belt then links the two gears.
The remaining pics show the rewind in various stages of fitting to the projector. This is a decided weakness of this design - the rewind has to be built up actually on the machine. Two of the main securing bolts are behind the large pulley, which therefore cannot be assembled in advance. Finally, a cover to (possibly) make it look a bit less makeshift. Note the riveted construction; I can remember as a teenager using one of these snap rivet tools which fix rivets from one side only, and the same tool is obviously still in demand 40 years on, as I only recently bought it and used it on this just to try it out. Now I suppose it will all have to be removed and painted......... but first, measure and record, as much for my benefit as anyone else's as I am sure that 2 years from now I shall have forgotten what and how I did. because of the make-it-up-as-I-go-along approach, the measurements are a bit approximate, but should give enuff detail for you (or me) to replicate the thing, should anyone indeed ever wish to do so.
In pic 1 above, I have not measured the two holes used to fix the two-armed cross to the plate - they are there just to hold the cross in place during assembly really. In pic 2, the thru hole near the LH end is for a tommy bar to tighten the shaft firmly into the cross. There is another thru hole right at the opposite end, which was part of a rejected approach to fixing the winding handle in place; the shaft could probably be a bit shorter. Three and 4 now complete all that's needed for me to be able to make another when I've forgotten what I did. (One other thing; the big toothed pulley is 56.5 diameter, 60 teeth, the smaller one has 16 teeth).
21st March
Took advantage of a bright , sunny day to do a bit of outdoor photography. My poor little 2megapixel camera didn't know what had hit it. Instead of struggling to illuminate the gloom, there was far too much light. Anyway, here are the pix.
The Acmade is self-explanatory to those who know about such things. Then there is a real Danson and an Agfa Movector - thees projecteur I know from nuutheenk. Finally 2 KOKs of the decrepit variety, which I purchased along with a third which has little more than the frame left, as a restoration project. I need another restoration project like I need a hole in the head.
I am looking for information about these Specto Analysers. The RH one has the inching button which is part missing on the LH one. Centre one has no button at all. And what about that 3-pin socket two of them have? What does it do? (If anyone knows of a source for the plugs to fit such sockets I shall be eternally grateful.) And it's not much better at the back- The centre one has a shaft protruding which seems to have lost its knob, but it's in a quite different place to the other two. I would much appreciate a copy, to buy or borrow, or a scan or even a photocopy of various editions of the instructions for these machines. I doubt these are the only variants - I've put a leaflet of a much later model somewhere. (See the Specto page.)
19th March
I recently worked on a 200B, recently acquired by its owner, that had gradually slowed down and ultimately ceased running almost completely. To cut a long story short, although the owner had oiled it, he had taken on board the injunctions one always sees in instructions not to over-oil. Unfortunately, he didn't have the instructions anyway, so had also missed some of the more carefully-hidden oiling holes beneath the lens and under the rear mech cover. Quite apart from the lack of instructions, a common problem with old projectors, this incident made me realise that you can't rely on "oil little and NOT often" guidance with a machine that's 50-plus years old and may not have been run at all in the last 20 years. What this machine needed was a good dosing with oil to ensure it reached all old, dried-out bearings etc - especially those on motors, where there is often a felt "wick" arrangement that has to be "re-filled" before any oil actually reaches the bearing. Then a good clean-up, after which one can revert to the standard advice and oil more sparingly. The machine then ran normally.
I also had a slightly bizarre set of issues with a Baby I was working on for a friend. I had seen this machine before, but it now had new problems. Only one film would go through - all others just sat in the gate. The mech was stiff, and only ran at all with the motor on max. As ever, the diagnosis is largely a matter of trial and error. Oil first, obviously, but it wasn't that. Then a washer at the front end of the shutter shaft to ensure the claw was emerging far enough, but it wasn't that. After much fruitless effort, I put it aside for a few hours. Returning to it later, I suddenly recalled something I had heard about the vital importance of a washer at the cam end of the shutter shaft. I had tended to regard this as something of an "old nerd's tale", but thought it was worth a try, and it worked.
During the earlier fruitless efforts, the motor had suddenly stopped responding to the speed control. so I took the bottom cover off the motor unit. One of the resistance fixing nuts, which connected to the resistance wire, had worked loose, and had moved along its thread to contact one of the incoming wires, so that was easy to fix. Finally, and this is where it gets a bit bizarre, I noticed that one of the nuts at the back of the motor was loose. This was on one of the threaded rods that serve to hold the motor together. As I was fixing this, I noticed that the motor steadily but quite distinctly speeded up as I tightened the nut, all the way to the point where I was reluctant to tighten further for fear of doing harm. There was little or no effect from tightening the other similar nut. I cannot even begin to understand what that is about - any ideas, please?
16th March
I have now figured out how to get some pix from Flickers into here, so you can see all the covers, contents and back pages from issues 121 onwards.
15th March
Been playing about with a 9.5mm Campro camera/projector,
following a query about the power supply. I got the instructions from Warton
Parfitt (I know, I should have gotten them ages ago, but it's not the Boy Way).
From these I find that there are in fact two models of the Campro. The
presumably original model has a very basic lens with 3 stops only - bright, dull
but, as the third was is project, only two really. The later version has a
decent-looking lens. They were made by a company called Home Cine Cameras Ltd of
18 Gray's Inn Road in London.
I discover from the instructions that I have several parts
missing. There should apparently be a little gizmo that goes over the lens for
projection - I don't know, but guess this could be a supplementary lens. There
should also be a rewind handle and a two-pin plug to fit in the b
ack
of the projector to power the lamp. I decided to make up a little plug, on the
lines of a Pathé design - see pic right. I did actually try to run a film
through, but the picture was small and dim. This may of course be due to the
lack of the extra lens (if that's what it was) and the fact that I was not using
the "special" lamp originally provided. This was 6v 6w, but the recommended
dry-cell battery was 7.5v; maybe they relied on over-running it to get a
brighter light. I could perhaps try a halogen, but it's certainly not worth
bothering unless I can get my hands on a projection attachment.
I am very impressed by the Campro motor, which will handle at
least 30ft on a single wind, or so it claims. It winds nice and quiet - no
ratchet. Sa
dly,
however, the Campro is made of Mazac and the cover on mine has warped enough that it no
longer fits correctly. One could in principle use it tho', as it takes a 9.5
charger. There were several others similar machines; here is a pic from
Son (ugh) of Gallery that Trevor Adams sent me;
it shows the Screnus, the later-model Campro and the Midas.
Here is the machine in its two modes; as projector with 30 & 60ft cassettes and as camera with charger. Note that with a charger far more of the film gets exposed as a loop, than in other 9.5 cameras, hence presumably the stern injunction never to open the camera before a film is finished. The take-up spool core has a very prominent prong to grip a sprocket hole; care is needed not to rip the film when rewinding. The claw seems reluctant to engage easily and the instruction book does say to use the inching knob to start it. Seemed a bit tricky. It's fine once it's going tho'. There is a brass pin in the middle of the film compartment, immediately behind the lamp - it don't revolve with the mech and I'm not clear what it does.
10th March
Ugh!
Keystone is a name I usually associate with 16mm, but this one appears to be 9.5. That dome presumably covers a pilot light.
9th March
I don't know where Dave Richardson finds all this stuff.....
When I saw this monster, I knew I just had to have it. It's immense - about 10 x 6 x 6 inches. I have never seen its like before, in the flesh or even in a catalogue. It turns out it's for a Lux with SS lamp and to connect the motor, too. Inevitably, David Richardson had a catalogue entry for it......
If you look closely, the cover for the meter is busted, tho' I would hope I can scavenge one from another resistance. You may also note that it says PATHEX under the meter, which seems odd to me. The knob on the other end changes resistance by a screw-thread mechanism, which means it has a long travel and changes only slowly. Great object.
2nd March
Interesting visit to Cinema Museum, but sadly (from my point of view) heavier on memorabilia than on projectors. Made a foolish purchase tho' - I may tell you more when I find out just how foolish.
Can I just remind you of this superb website. Not only scores of pix of rare equipment, but all sorts of helpful links. Visit it. http://www.xs4all.nl/~wichm/cinimage.html
22nd February
Off to the Cinema Museum in London at the weekend for their bazaar.
Have finally finished sorting the Monaco - I had to change the motor. Having actually run the thing, I can now say that it does work; against expectations, the sprocketless drive works and seems to have no trouble maintaining loops. It's OK once you actually get your head round it, but it was never going to succeed in the mass market. While I was at it, I went to the Monaco page and lightened up some of the pix, which were rather gloomy.
19th February
I've added quite a bit of material to the section on the "H" projector.
12th February
I can't recall if I mentioned that on initial test my latest H restoration showed the shutter was well out of line, with lots of "rain" on the screen. I thought fixing this would require stripping the side off the machine again, but it turns out to be a lot simpler. The shutter mech is a separate sub-assembly; loosening two securing nuts just above the claw allows the shutter to be pushed up and disengaged from the rest of the mech so it can be adjusted.
6th February
Just acquired a load of bits and pieces (no projectors), which is requiring some sorting and even more trying to find somewhere to actually put it.
Report back on the Lux conversion is that the owner is pleased.
Have returned to working on an "H", which was running
concurrently with the Lux work. It's a very fiddly machine to work on - the
wires for the lamp pass through the end of the motor, past the brushes, as does
a wire to the motor resistance. I know this helps with pivoting, but the result
is an extremely cramped layout where the wires meet the resistance mat and the
bottom of the lamphouse. The lamphouse itself is a right hodge-podge, and all
the screws
need
to be in place before the thing takes on any rigidity. And you have to work with
the fact that there is very little "play" with all those connecting wires so you
have to more or less build it in situ. I found that the motor fan was juuuust
catching the casing intermittently, but to get at it to re-adjust the spacers
meant virtually dismantling the lamphouse over again. And on test, the shutter
has obviously gotten out of synch with all this messing around so I gotta take
the whole side off the mech. And that side plate will only come off if you also
remove two of the bolts securing the mech to the base. Why is nothing ever
simple?
I am trying a new, simpler approach to "H" lamp conversion, using one of those mini-transformers used for modern low-voltage lighting, and a different lampholder, seen left. As you can see, it's just a standard round ceramic holder, rather crudely glued/ filler-ed into a bit of tube the size of the original lamp socket. This tube happens to be threaded, but that's not necessary. The wires just pass down thru the lamp socket to the terminals, to which the wires from the tranny also attach. The standard lamp securing screw is not quite long enough to grip without the added "T" piece, so I just stuck a little bit of thin brass rod into the hole and fitted the screw thing on top. You may be able to see that it is possible to offset the ceramic holder a bit in fixing it into the tube. This helps to bring the lamp filament closer to the original position, which is slightly forward of the centre line of the lamp socket. The tube allows up-and-down adjustment (bit trial and error unless you use a low voltage feed so you adjust the lamp while it's on - not very nice at full power, I would imagine), which may be particularly helpful. This is because there are a lot of cheap low-voltage lamps around now, and I suspect that are not up to the standard of a proper A1 Class projection lamp. Some I've seen have the filament much lower than it should be.
This particular "H" is one I've had for years, but there was a break in the motor resistance mat and I had shied away from fiddling. Being now older and bolder, I had a go, and found it was fiddly but reasonably easy to unwind a single turn of the wire, and tie the ends back together on the back face of the mat with a normal Granny knot. It's impossible to get things tight like this and, left loose, the whole thing can start to unravel. So what I've done is to use some Milliput to stick the joins down and take up any slack. This keeps the wire reasonably in line and, on results so far, seems to work well. There are at least two joins in this one, yet there seems to be no gap in the smooth change of speed as the pointer is moved.
Something else that's a problem with the "H", especially if you're converting the lamp, is the motor fan. This is a rather crude affair of 4 vans, made of a single Mazac casting and very fragile - it's very easy to bust one off. Last one I did, I managed to bust off the two that were left, but I luckily had a little fan that would fit instead. I am looking into the possibility of making a sort of copy, with aluminium vanes glued (Gorilla glue) to a core.
I think lamp conversion is essential for the "H", quite apart
from the difficulty of obtaining originals. 80v 100w is plain silly, and was
clearly chosen for
price rather than performance, and because it was, in fact, the old "S" lamp
coming round again, not even the more powerful "SS" of 80v 160w. I have, as
regulars will know, shoe-horned a Eumig P8 tranny into an "H", but why bother
when you can use a "switch mode" tranny about one fifth the size? (see
left). The only
problem is that at the 100w level, they can start to get a bit expensive,
particularly if you pay High Street prices. Try
www.cpc.co.uk or some other big online
mob. You can also see left that I have replaced the switch with a double-pole,
double-throw, centre-off type. This has enabled me to wire up so that moving the
switch one way turns on just the motor, and moving it quickly across the "Off"
position to the other side, both motor and lamp are on, with virtually no sign
that you have in fact crossed an off position on the way. This seems a good
alternative to finding some way of adding another switch. There must be switches
that do off-on-on, but I've never found one. I do like to be able to run the
motor without the lamp for cooling, and it may well be that the new lamp
produces more heat, making this more important. The "H" does have that sliding
shutter device, but you still have motor and lamp together.
I fixed the mains lead in place with a rubber band so you can see all of it. I hate those long trailing mains leads that you can't disconnect, so this is my answer to avoid cutting holes in projectors - the trailing lead has a socket into which fits a standard euro mains plug like what you get with your kettle etc. You may feel the wiring looks a bit untidy - two reasons; a) I wanted to take one of the mains leads to the motor from a socket on the tranny, but it flatly refused to accept the wire and b) for reasons outlined above, I wanted to leave some slack to assist future access.
My hope is that all these changes, plus adding some rubber feet (and did you know there are/can be/ should be thin rubber pads between the motor supports/pivots and the base?), will bring the "H" up to something like I always thought it should be. With a superb claw and an excellent gate, it really should be a very good machine. Many I've seen have a grinding sort of noise from the motor or mech and don't sound the thing at all. I've sprayed a good wodge of silicone grease into the mech and ensured well-oiled bearings for the motor, and this one at least now sounds like any typical silent projector. The other big issue is, of course, those silly 300ft arms. Already I am plotting how best to extend them. I do actually have one "H" awaiting restoration which appears to have original 900ft arms. I may also have to look at improving the take-up, which relies solely on slippage of the wire belt, there being no slipping clutch arrangement.
3rd February
I have been getting in touch with my inner Lux, starting with a lamp conversion. You know how I prefer to leave projectors in their original state, or returnable thereto. These pix show how I've tackled this with the Lux.
Removing the spring-loaded lamp retainer (pic 1) leaves two holes (already tapped M6 x 0.6, not the normal M6 thread - I had to make screws) in the bottom of the lamphouse, and there are already slots at the base of both inner and outer lamphouse covers. In pic 2, you can see that a thick piece of Tufnol has been drilled to fit these two screw holes, with a hole to go round the upstanding part of the original lampholder, a cut-out to avoid blocking cooling air from the motor fan and a notch to allow the lamp wires to pass thru the slots in the lamphouse covers. The lamp is mounted on a sheet of aluminium with two M2 screws into tapped holes. A slotted hole provides for fore and aft adjustment of the lamp - height and side-to-side can be set in advance, but not fore and aft so easily. The alu sheet is held down by just a single screw thru the slot and thru the Tufnol (I didn't need to counter-sink the Tufnol hole, but I was making this all up on the fly). It seems adequately secure. I couldn't use the other hole in the same way as there is virtually no space between the hole and the inner lamphouse cover, and anyway it would block ventilation from the motor fan.
In pic 3, the lump of alu which I bored out to take the figure-of-eight socket is deep enough to allow the wires to be fed thru their holes and soldered to the terminals, then covered by some thin Tufnol. This block will then fit onto the outer lamphouse cover, with screws passing thru the alu block, thru the vertical slots in the lamphouse cover, into a metal strip with two tapped holes. This is the same idea as one of the fixings for the ammeter. The entire unit as seen here can be removed just by undoing a few screws. Replace the lamp retainer and the machine is back to original. No need to change the original wiring at all. I plan an external power supply - one of those modern low-voltage lighting transformers - with a switch in its mains lead, powering a 12v 50w lamp, which will hopefully not damage still frames. With a bit of black paint, the conversion won't be invisible but relatively unobtrusive. Here are more pix showing the original lamp retainer in place and various views of the conversion. In pic 3 below you can just see the threaded strip between the two lamphouse covers.
10th January 2010
Wot, you ask, hav he bin doin' all thru Xmas and well into New Year wiv no postings?
Well, partly it's been visitors - daughters, friends - and visiting - neighbours, friends. And partly it's been far too cold in my beloved workshop during this cold snap. And partly the excesses of Xmas and the darkness of the weather hav left me somnolent.
One
thing that actually took up a great deal of time was this, but at least it was
something I could do largely inside, with just occasional forays into the
garage. The back-story is that, some years ago, when I got back into 17.5 and
28mm, I identified the need for at least "fake" leader from 35mm, ie just a
strip of film with no holes, to use on the front end of films where it would
never need to go thru the projector, and saving the very limited supplies of
real leader for where they were really needed. It was then I constructed the
inner core of this device, the silvery drum buried in the middle. This drum is
aluminium, with very narrow slots for cutters, so placed as to give 28mm wide
with one blade and 17.5mm with two. Originally, I was using razor blades, then
later I graduated to the circular blades you get in rotary cutters found in
craft etc shops. Unfortunately, the original did not give very good results, the
cut edges being very wavy and the width therefore a bit inconsistent. So I
adopted a much lower-tech approach, and got some strips of steel cut to 28mm and
17.5 mm wide, then used a Stanley knife to cut. This was moderately successful.
However, I now have a need for something much more accurate. I have in recent times acquired quite a bit of 17.5 silent film, double-perf, and want to show it on the correct machine at something like the correct speed. I have zilch leader, however, of the double-perf persuasion. A year or two back, I acquired much of the 17.5 film and projector collection of John Cunningham, via another collector who had regretfully decided he couldn't keep it. Among this was a film perforator, John being a brilliant engineer. This, however, will only perforate one side at a time. It is also set for 17.25mm, on the assumption that 17.5 would have shrunk with time and the perforator really being meant to re-perforate film with chewed sprocket holes.
Clear so far?
So I decided to have another go at my first attempt, having concluded that the problem was the inherent jerkiness of hand operation and a lack of sufficient guides. Among many things I have acquired over the years is quite a bit of Meccano that is not good enough for my main model-making stock, but is fine for this sort of project. There is also the advantage that using Meccano in such poor condition means you escape the notice of the Meccano thought police who get very snippy about using non-Meccano parts. So I added chain drive for the cutters and the cutter drum, and various guides and braces and, after innumerable false starts, dismantlings and rebuildings arrived at the mech you see above. It does however, have two problems. First, it is an uncompromising engineering piece, with no thought for ease of setting up and using - it's a bugger to thread - and second, it doesn't actually work. The effort required to drive the cutters thru the film is quite high and I think it would probably need a much more robust mech to do the job. There may also be design flaws - after all, I just made it up as I went along. Still, I enjoyed the doing, even if it has proved fruitless. So I have retired to lick my wounds and ponder.
Another thing I have been doing is some adjustments to my second
silent 17.5 Rural, once re-bodied as described on 24th December last. When I
tested it, it wouldn't keep the bottom loop. This seemed likely to be due to the
fact that the lower sprocket retaining thingy was not sprung, relying simply o
n
gravity. I couldn't see any simple way of adding a spring, but then I recalled
that, when we had a conservatory built a year or two back, I had noticed lots of
the lead flashing they used where the roof joined the house just lying about
loose. I thought that as I was paying, I would keep a bit of this as you never
know when it might come in useful. And so it has. I added three strips of lead
(one is inside out of sight) held in place by one of those little devices where
a screw fits into a threaded boss, with a countersunk head on both sides of the
equation. This seems to have worked, tho' it will need a bit more testing to be
certain.
The other problem was that I was getting a substantial halo of
surplus light on the screen all round the picture. I have fitted a 15v 150w
dichroic to this machine, rather than using the original Vox lamp. The other
machine, with the original lamp, doesn't seem to have the same problem. I don't
know if the
light
is too bright, too unfocussed (I had to mount the dichroic pretty close to the
gate), or if it is an artefact of a non-bloomed lens. Anyway, I thought of
something that had puzzled me in one of the illustrations from a pre-war Alef
catalogue (see Alef Mask). I thought, aha! Maybe this
fitment is to block halos, so I made a thingy for the Rural. Unfortunately, it
don't work - not having a lot of luck at the moment. I tried a bit of black card
to reduce the size of the hole, but could not get a clean edge. I suspect this
may be because my mask is before the point at which the light rays from the lens
cross over - certainly, the bit of card had to go well into the hole before it
was even noticeable. At least, that's a theory which I shall have to test.
Anybody got a better idea?
24th December
I have been working away in my very cold garage on my second silent 17.5 Rural. You may recall (see 16th April entry below) that I was having problems finding a lens that would work. So far I have failed, but I was suddenly struck by what I can only describe as a brilliant idea, tho' I do say it myself. I have a couple of sound Rural-converted-to-16mm machines, pretty battered about. So I stripped down the mech of one of them, everything except the horizontal shaft which carries the cam and, crucially, the larger lens barrel that meant I couldn't use the lens in my silent mech. Then I put the silent mech parts in and Voilà! - I have a working silent Rural, with a lens, tho' it's a bit larger than the original. And I achieved all of this without making any permanent change to either machine. Cool, huh?
21st December
I have not been inactive, tho' it's a bit too cold in my garage right now for my liking. I have assisted a junior nerd to fit a tranny and 12v 10w lamp to a Baby, and fettled a motor to fit it. I have corrected two problems on Bolex DA so it now works; I am wondering about a) conversion to QI and b) fitting motor and lamp switches. I have checked and repaired some more 17.5 - a depressing occupation. I looked at Oliver Twist, 8r sound, on 4 x 1000' reels. Reels 1-3 sprockets almost totally intact (rare enough in itself). Reel 4 - water damage all the way thru, with frequent and regular quite small patches where the emulsion is dried out and scratchy or stripped off altogether. Looks like water fell onto the reel at one point and soaked in. Naturally, the worst affected is the sound track. Repaired a "test" film and ran it a) on Super Rural No. 1 and B) a Gebescope Model A converted to 17.5 by the late John Cunningham. He was a brilliant engineer and the Gebescope gives splendid results. Looked at a 16mm copy of Charlie the Burglar, which has nearly as much sprocket damage as a 9.5 or 17.5 film. I spose it mite just go thru a twin claw silent machine.
14th December
I have found various articles about projectors and light output which I shall add as I process them to a new page under lamps, called light output.
13 December
See 1st December below. I have now finished checking the Betty Balfour, and fortunately the remaining 3 reels are much better. Also a couple of cartoons that didn't reach 9.5 - Summertime and A Stone Age Romance turned out to be in good shape.
I've never really used a Gem in anger, so to speak, nor have I seen the instructions. So here as a compromise are the Instructions for a Mark VIII (and what an ugly machine it is), with 9.5 added as a mere footnote.
Compare
this to the original Gem, which has that amazing air of an Art Deco design out
of its time, even tho' The Dark Lord corrupted it and
made it into a Son (ugh!), the cine equivalent of an Orc.
9th December
This is not strictly Rural, tho' it has a nice projector pic, so I shall put it in 17.5 advertising. Not finished yet.
1st December
Found these as I was rummaging thru my computer files.
Unfortunately,
it seems that the present whereabouts of this historic copy of Napoleon are not
known, even to Kevin Brownlow. It is sad, because I finally have the proper
machine to show 17.5 silent, in the shape of an original Rural. My fear is it
will get shown on a Home Talkie and damaged. I am just examining my copy of
Betty's Good Fortune on 17.5 silent (the original title was Cinders). Almost
every single sprocket hole down one side of Reels 1 & 2 is trashed, and there are numerous
splices where material has obviously been lost. Even the other side has not
escaped entirely, as someone has run it thru a Home Talkie reversed, projecting
presumably via a mirror or prism Ironically, this probably makes the film
unsuitable for a Rural, which only has one claw pin each side. What I really
need is is a Rural Sonore, which would have a double claw on one side only and
it would be possible to fit a slightly smaller motor pulley to reduce the speed
to, say, 18 fps or whatever was deemed suitable. I can't change the speed on my
Super Talkie; the only other option is the Home Talkie which caused the problem
in the first place. That is not to say using a Home Talkie is impossible; I ran
Christus successfully despite considerable sprocket damage, tho' nothing
like as extensive as Cinders (I did run it in reverse with a mirror as the
sprockets on that side seemed slightly better). The trick is to repair the film
using tape so that it is completely free from un-repaired damage, and then watch
it like a hawk thru the projector, especially that crucial top loop.
To return to Napoleon, it would be nice to know where it was, at least. Who knows - maybe the time has come to show it again? Tho' without the wonderful piano accompaniment of Arthur Dulay, 'twould be but a shadow of its former self. I seem to recall that the film has now been preserved on 35mm so, although some of the 17.5 material may have been used, it is no longer unique. Typical - narrow gauge film saves the day (as in Perils of Pauline on 28), then standard gauge comes along, copies it and thereafter takes all the credit. There ain't no justice.
David Richardson has kindly scanned all sorts of useful, early literature, including the catalogue from 1923 below. I have some difficulty with how to present such documents. Inevitably, the scanning process is imperfect; the slightest lack of flatness and "stains" appear. Try to adjust the background colour to what it might once have been before the paper faded, and you leach away some of the very wide range of colours of which the letters are composed. To show you, I have given 3 versions of pages 6&7; the original scan, a pale yellow/cream colour that I have found works well, and a rather stark black and white version. Deciding just how much work to do is difficult - it doesn't help that I quite enjoy doing it and find it quite compulsive - because it can be very time-consuming and there is just so much material. I shall have to leave most of them unprocessed for now. At least, I shall end up making a virtual archive of information that anyone can access, whereas actual copies are very rare indeed. I am very grateful to people like Dave who are willing to share their material in this way. He has also provided more of the Baby film leaflets - these, too, are unprocessed - which I have started to add - see Before PM...
This Baby leaflet is also from Dave.
9th November
I have started a Great Work. About 18m ago, I acquired a more or
less intact 17.5mm Super Rural mech. By a huge freak of chance, I had the oppor
tunity
at Argenteuil this year to acquire a more or less original amplifier/base for
it. The machine when I got it was extremely noisy, so much so that I felt unable
to use it without full investigation and I took it more or less completely to
bits. The challenge now, therefore, is to try to remember or figure out from
first principles how it goes back together. The pic R shows the various bits. L
is the base, then the motor (upper) and sound telescope (why is is so long?
There isn't actually anywhere to fit an exciter nearer to the sound drum, and it
may simply be that). Then the main mech unit, which takes the drive from the
motor by the shaft seen below it (which is joined to the motor by a
semi-flexible coupling), thru the central hole in the back plate of the mech.
This in turn drives the gears on whose shafts are mounted the first two
sprockets. The third (take-up) sprocket is driven from the spiral on the thin
end of the drive shaft, via a shaft in the lower spool arm which has gears at
each end to transmit the drive thru the necessary angles. The shutter blade can
be seen in the pot; it rotates in front of the back face of the mech. Finally,
on the right is the lamp cassette.
The clo
se-up
L shows the new parts I had made and the originals. You may be able to see that
the two fibre/Paxolin gears have damaged teeth. E
ither
they were the cause of the noisy running or I damaged them getting them out.
They were expensive to have remade in brass. The two smaller brass bits on the
right screw into the hole you see in the main mech just above them and carry one
end of the main shaft in a ball race. The RH one I definitely did damage getting
it out, but its replacement was not that costly. I never cease to be amazed that
the ball races used in this machine are still off-the-shelf items today. R is a
close-up of the main cam and claw assembly. The basic claw shuttle is identical
to the one in the Home Talkie, but the claw pins are affixed at a different
point.
Now here's something I would bet good money that few of you have ever seen. Quite what it's for I dunno - it's like an Acmiola/Cineola, but with a prism to project the image onto a screen. The only way I can see it scoring over the others is that (I think) it has a shutter.
6th November
Interesting session this afternoon with a Eumig Mark S. The
problem being addressed was the motor mountings. In order to move to and fro to
bring the drive shaft into contact with the rubber discs that take the drive,
the motor has to pivot. The pivot supports seem to comprise some kind of plast
ic
in the form of a trapezoid (if that is the correct name for a triangle wiv the
top cut off) about 0.5" in most directions, with a brass bush inserted. The
trapezoids fit into appropriately shaped recesses. The originals are apparently
prone to disintegrate, and seemed to have done so in this case. Presumably, as Eumig went to
the trouble of doing this, rather than just making holes in the supports
themselves, they saw a need for insulation, so I used nylon, about 6mm thick,
cut and filed to shape. Tho' it might have been springiness - the way the bits
disintegrate reminds me of what happens with very old foam rubber/plastic eg as
used to pack projector lamps. Here is a pic of a machine with intact thingies -
look rather manky to me, also these seem quite solid. You have to remove the amp
and the fan housing to get at the corresponding thingy further inside the
machine.
While the thing was partly broken down, I thought I might as well give you a couple of shots of the amp.
I had to hand some brass tube with an i/d of 4mm (matching the motor pivots), which I force-fitted into a hole in the nylon. Following on from my musings about repair costs in relation to the Phillips, I wondered what people might be prepared to pay for a pair if they had this problem. I guess about £5 tops, which works out for me to a princely £2.50 per hour. So I'm unlikely to make any more.
5th November
I have now got the Phillips back into some sort of working order. I still have a long list of things to do but, as I am unlikely to use it extensively in the near future, it'll have to go on the back burner for a bit. What I still need to do includes:-
- Replacing the big tranny, which is really doing very little work. The motor is probably a bit too big to use the Elf tranny in auto-transformer mode for the 110v, but it should be possible to fit a small tranny inside the base. Fair bit involved in fitting and re-wiring, and then of course I have to go back inside the tranny and uncouple that mains feed, and maybe fit sensible plugs so I can use it as a general power source.
- The top arm isn't right- tighten up the screw and it seizes up, then works loose as you move it- needs the correct thickness of washer, maybe.
- I ent got the solar cell fitment quite right - that black cover is fouling the flywheel. I am not clear what to do - open out the slot covering the cell, which is where I think the problem lies, use shims where the bracket is fixed or just trim off the bits that foul the flywheel.
- The motor takes its time starting, with a second or two of slow build-up to speed. Maybe capacitor is tired?
- I'm not satisfied with the volume of the sound. The change of cell is one obvious cause, so I might even have to try another, tho' I have fitted an Elf one. It also seems to me that the exciter is a bit dim - there may be a way to crank this up. Position of the cell might be off.
- I noticed when framing the test film I used that the machine went very clattery before I reached the right place, so much so that I backed off. No idea why this is, or if it's the film rather than the projector.
- The rear gate is a very flimsy chromed affair and damp storage has caused rust. This needs to be carefully checked with a test loop to ensure it's not scratching.
I include all this partly as a memo to self (I am increasingly finding that even I use my website as a first port of call for info!) but also to show you just what may be involved in repairing/ restoring a projector. Any one of the above could take hours to sort, even if they are as I have imagined - if I'm wrong, who knows? And what have I missed? Make a note; do not complain about the cost of repairs to a projector as and when you have the need - whatever you are charged is likely to fall well short of what would be a realistic market rate. I won't do repairs for others by and large - what happens if it goes wrong? It would no doubt cost me more than I could hope to earn. Think what you would want to get as an hourly rate, and be thankful if you can find anyone to do cine repairs at all!
I was using a soldering iron with built-in temperature control. Quite by chance, I found it was the cause of a loud buzz from the amp when switched on. Yet another thing to watch out for.
3rd November
Bin a while, because of A) Ealing, B) week in Cornwall doing family history and industrial archaeology and C) a week recovering from a ghastly stomach bug which knocked me and 'er indoors sideways.
At Ealing September 2009, I picked up a LH drive Phillips intermittent sprocket 16mm machine. I have played with one of these at the PPT in Bletchley; it has the distinction of being the only machine I have yet met where threading is non-intuitive and just has to be known. This is because it has an arrangement whereby the gate is opened along with the film path by a single lever and, once threaded, closing up the lever makes the loops.
This machine has obviously had a lot done to it electrically/electronically. From the rear view, it appears that there was at one time an even bigger motor, and possibly a different lamphouse. The tranny, about the biggest and heaviest I have seen, may well have been designed to power a 110v 1200w incandescent lamp. The amp has disappeared, and in its place are most of the electrics of an Elf - tranny and amp, including the power for the 24v 250w lamp now fitted. The fixed wire emerging from the left of the external tranny is actually a mains feed (off the back of the mains input socket to the tranny) to the Elf bits. So it appears that all that huge tranny is doing is supplying 110v to the motor. Overkill, perhaps? The empty socket on the left of the big tranny may have been a separate feed to the original amp - there is a matching affair on the rear of the machine base. The LH input on the rear of the proj (now the mains feed to the Elf stuff) may have been an amp output. Trouble is, all this is speculation, as I have no documentation at all - anything would be welcome.
I don't know why it seems to be a point of pride with so many that all projectors should be as dirty and unkempt as possible, combining both under and over-oiling in a single neat package, tho' to be fair this has an oil bath, which are notoriously leaky things. It may be in the course of my extensive cleaning that the cell seen in the final pic got damaged, or it may already have been busted - hard to say. The corner with the output leads is cracked almost off, so I shall have to replace. Incidentally, the insulation of the original cable used for the mains feed from the tranny to the Elf parts was rotten and just crumbling off where it was connected, inside the tranny casing. It was an absolute b******* to get inside and work on to replace it.
7th October
I'm also processing the Talkie Instruction manual, first couple of pages at end of Talkie section.
5th October
Having a 17.5 period at the moment; been reviving my abortive scheme to make Talkie spool arms, as I now need two sets, so I spose I'll have to get on with it. In the meantime, have prettied up and completed the partial 17.5 film catalogue in Advertising etc. I have a second one, which has much new material and some curious detail differences; will do this one as well at some time.
2nd October
John Collins bought a Eumig Super at Harpenden, a 9.5 machine but which had somehow acquired a set of 8mm arms instead of 9.5. It was relatively simple to fix, as all that was required was a change of spindles - I copied those from mine (one re-badged as a Pathé Rex). Finding a way to keep the spools on was a challenge, which I ducked by slightly lengthening the spindles and cannibalising Kid Super attachment for the slide-on retainers that are a push fit, yet rotate freely once on. However, having completed the job for John, I thought I would have a go at making a conventional spool retainer, ie the ones where the end is a pivoted strip that flips 90 degrees, with a spring providing a bit of tension to hold it in place. Fiddly, but I made one as a test that would undoubtedly work. Will try to do a pic.
I have had confirmation that the Argenteuil fair will not take place - at least, not at the usual time and location.
28th September
Harpenden yesterday, and I ended up bringing back most of what I took to try to sell. I find fairs very hard work and couldn't have managed this one without the generous assistance of Pete Giggle (soft G). Thanks, Pete.
I also brought back very few purchases. The fair was, I think, well patronised, with more tables than last year if anything. But between the famed parsimony of us ninefivers and the fact that members of the dwindling band of collectors already has pretty much all they want (or can find room or get senior management consent for), life is hard for sellers. Nonetheless, my worst fears of a collapse in the cine market were far from realised. Rumour has it I will not get my midwinter jaunt to Argenteuil in January as the French authorities have requisitioned the venue for emergency flu vaccinating or whatever. More when I hear it.
On a lighter note, here is a list of possible titles for the successor to "Lights Out and the Stars Appear", put together by me and the membership Secretary of Flickers in a not wholly serious mood. Hopefully, this will spur/shame you into doing better. All printable suggestions welcomed.
Lights on and the Nerds Appear Calling All Nerds The Electric Light Show From Steam Radio to Cine
More Lives than a Cat A cat only has Nine Lives Half a Life More than a Cat 9.5 Weeks
The Sprockets/Claws of Destiny/Fate Flickering into Eternity Flickering Shadows
Armchair Cinema Cinema in the Front Room Parlour Games/Pictures Black and white and seen all over
The Black and White Picture Show Carry on Up the Sprocket Carry On Projectionist Confessions of a Projectionist
Screen Behind the Curtains Behind the Screen After the Picture's Over Pack up your projector in your old kit bag
We'll Film Again.... Beyond the Stars, the memories Carrying On To infinity and Beyond
The Memory Lingers on We came, we saw, we collected We Never Closed Nine and a half for ever
The Collecting never stopped Big Screen to Home Screen Keep the Home Lights Burning When the Lights came up/on again
Go not gently into that good night They said it wouldn't Last Forty Years on (and going strong) No Ice cream at the interval
That's Home Entertainment That was the Gauge that was Green Gauge Summer Gauging Success
35 minus 6.5
3 =
Preserve and Show
The Passing Show
The Show's the Thing
Calling All/Old Stars Where Are they now? Green Gauge Summer Scope for Improvement/Change
This Happy Breed The Lights are going out all over Europe The Show must go on 9.5 steps to heaven
All Our Yesterdays The Last Waltz The Legion of the Lost The Parade Goes on
The Last of the few A few of the last Where's the last reel Reeling along/around
Why don't we do the show right here? Passing Shadows These Old Shades Ni Notched Ka
Amazing Gauge A Many-splendoured gauge
Surely you can do better than that? I hadn't realised how punny and derivative they were!
29th August
I have got shingles, for the second time. It affects the upper left side of my head, including around, tho' not quite on or in, the eye. Last time was the same on the right. Any who have had this horrid complaint will understand my additions to this site are likely to lapse for some time.
This blurb for a Kinox is of unknown date. Of note are the poor grammar and the side-swipe at machines that have a dynamo, as well as the insistence on absolute safety. Could both of these last two be references to the KOK? As indeed could be references to enclosed gears.
26th August
There are always more sites I have not seen before - try this for a local collection of all sorts of cine stuff. www.curzon.org.uk/index.html
23rd August
I have added a copy of the famous Sound Issue of Pathescope Monthly for April/May 1938.
16th August
Have found a very manky set of instructions for the Lutz/Omo/Luch projector. As the machines are common, here they are as somewhat tidied up. It's a tiny booklet, about 5" by 4". A wiring diagram is an unusual but very welcome
feature. I assure you I have not tampered with the content - the sometimes unfortunate mistranslations are original and genuine.
14th August
I've been adding some more to the Baby Film Catalogue section. I'm afraid the copies I have been able to borrow have been very poor, often photocopies to start with, and trying to get them halfway decent is a major effort. If anyone is able to lend or scan good originals, I would be grateful - any catalogues or supplements from the early days that are not already here, too, as well as Baby Cine Chat leaflets that came Before Pathescope Monthly.
Any good quality scans or loan copies of early or unusual literature are also welcome; you can see the sort of stuff, notably things like the Alef booklet (see 27th July below).
27th July
Not sure where this is finally going to end up, but it has all these machines, none of which have I ever seen.
25th July
Been fiddling with a B&H 606H 8mm machine. For some reason I have yet to discover, the motor is running slow and hot. Anyway, while I had it in bits, I thought you'd like to see the innards.
First pic is looking towards front of proj; top of proj is on R. Gate aperture bottom, that thingy top is the primitive speed control device. Second pic looks to rear of proj, which is upside down. The motor shaft (see pic 4) comes up thru that hole next to the pulley thing. The shaft carries a small grooved wheel, which is a friction drive against the larger one. Also evident is the still pic device, which opens a gap between the two wheels and brings the heat shutter into play.
The RH bit of pic 3 is the rear of the part in pic 2; you can see the bearing the motor shaft passes thru. The LH bit is a conventional motor cage. You can see upper R the curved slot into which fits a sliver of brake shoe material. Speed of the motor is controlled by this being forced against the face of the fan assembly on the motor shaft, ie control is by increasing or decreasing the load on the motor. I have always felt this to be poor design and a weak point of this B&H mechanism, although I suppose it doesn't matter much if you lose energy via a resistance or like this.
In the end, I failed to make the motor run fast all the time, so have shelved it as a spares machine. One other thing I did, tho', was to try a new way of wiring. The original B&H leads are rare and often decaying, so I removed the original fitting from the projector. In its place I put a block of steel, about a 1" cube (have to chamfer the corners a bit for it to go in). I made a threaded hole in it, so I could copy the original method of holding it in place, ie a screw down thru the top of the socket. I also bored a central hole for a wire, which was connected inside the machine by ordinary soldered joins, covered with heat-shrink tubing. I put a knot in the cable inside the machine to stop it being pulled about. As I also dislike those great, clumsy trailing leads, I cut the cable to about 6 " long and put a socket on the end, which will take any standard euro plug, like you get on kettles and computers.
Now that I have a way of by-passing the irritating B&H lead problem, I may use them more. The very short lead with a socket works for all sorts of machines, eg Elfs, whose long fixed leads are a pain.
19th July
A
new contact, M. J-C Laubie, has found a superb pic with dimensions for both
silent and sound 17.5. I have never seen a such thing for 17.5 and I am deeply
indebted to him.
Martial Dassonville a pris peur à ma prise faible de la langue Française. Il m'a corrigé; voir Pathé Rural. Je suis très reconnaissant de son assistance; merci bien.
After prolonged and exhausting tribulations, I have finally got the Super Rural working well, at least with films in good nick.
11th July
More on the Super Rural.
First pic shows top sprocket as restored. Seems to work well, tho' have yet to try it with damaged or extensively repaired film. 2nd is the third sprocket. The restored retaining roller is L; R I have taken advantage of the alterations that had previously been done. I have re-shaped the plate that had been fixed behind the sprocket, and used it to provide a sprung smoothing roller for the take-up. I felt the need for this partly because the take-up, gear driven from the centre of the spool arm, is not quite smooth and partly because I think the use of 2000ft reels will need this.
We then have a view into the lamphouse. Originally, this whole side of the lamphouse was solid; as you can see, a large hole was hacked into it, and a crudely-fashioned lamp arrangement inserted. I have not really changed this much, other than to give the lampholder more space for adjustment as it was way out of line, and to re-arrange the wiring so it is possible to change the lampholder without having to undo the wires from the back. The final pic shows the box I fitted to the back of the motor - where there were just bare terminals when I got the machine. Originally, the feed to the exciter lamp also went thru a (much smaller!) box here. Now the feed goes via a socket on the side of the switch housing.
10th July
I've decided I'm like a duck - sailing along all serene on the surface, but the little legs going like crazy out of sight. Have now added some more detailed manual/parts list stuff for the Victor.
Pour les Français, je viens de traduire mon article en Flickers sur le 17,5 en Français. Un ami est en train de le corriger, puis je le ferais disponible d'une manière à décider.
In addition, have translated my latest 17.5 article in Flickers into French.
Have also played more with Super Rural. As reported on 2nd July,
I was not satisfied with the lamp interlock arrangement. I have now sorted this,
with much advice from Noel Pratt, by inserting a relay to control the lamp
current. Basically, the motor switch is actually switching the mains supply to
the motor tranny; once this switch is on, the tranny is fed and in turn feeds
the motor. The switch also controls a mains feed to the relay; once the switch
is on, the relay allows current to go to the lamp. If the relay is not receiving
current, ie the motor switch is off, then the lamp gets no current. I did do a
rough diagram which I shall try to include. The relay (Maplin) is a double pole
double throw,
but
I have wired it as SPST, wiring the pairs of contacts together, as shown,
because it's a 10amp relay and 24v 250w is 10amp plus, tho' I doubt it matters
at these low voltages. Pins 4 & 5 don't get used. The reason I have the lamp
voltage thru the relay rather than controlling the mains input to the lamp
tranny is that this is an Elf tranny and supplies the amp and exciter, too, and
I wanted to be able to run the sound without the lamp.
In an attempt to deal with the distorted sound problem I hardly have to move the volume control from 0 to get sound too loud), I have added a potentiometer across the input to the amp, which I can adjust from outside via a small hole. Now working on the lamp, which I think is way out of alignment. I find along the way that the lens housing is the same size as Debrie lenses, but none of the short throw ones I have will go far enough back towards the gate to focus.
7th July
Terry Vacani has sent me this link - even if you can't do French, you should be able to find your way to some splendid pix of projectors etc. Pathé - Recherche simple
3rd July
Just found a new (mainly 16mm) website, www.paulivester.com. Inter alia, he has attempted a list of all Bell and Howell projector models.
2nd July
Been playing about with the Super Rural again (see May 2nd) and I think have got it working well. The problem is that the Elf amp inside the casing seems to give rather low and distorted sound, while an external amp gives excellent results. I suppose I shall have to go in and sort it, but it's a lot of fiddling as the main plate to which the amp components are attached has to be cut about to fit, and because of the way everything is wired together, I can only test a replacement amp once more or less fully installed.
When I first wired the machine up several years ago, the only way I could find to achieve a motor/lamp interlock was to make the motor switch control the mains input to the entire machine. So there was no amp until the motor was running, and I didn't really like that. After discussion with a friend, I tried again, wiring one wire of both the 110v for the motor and the 24v for the lamp thru the motor switch together, before going on to the motor and the lamp switch. This gave me interlock OK, but as I am usually good about switching motor off before lamp, I didn't find the problem at once. For reasons that I confess are not clear to me, I now have a 2-way switch sort of arrangement. If I switch on either the lamp OR the motor switch, the motor starts. If I then operate the other switch (either the motor or lamp, depending on which I pushed first), the lamp comes on. Switching off is the same; either switch will turn the lamp off, and the other then turns the motor off. Apart from anything else, this removes the option of one-switch emergency off, the second main point of having an interlock (the first of course being to stop the lamp being on without motor.) I shall have to thin gain.
I've also been making changes in my garage to create a bit more room and a bit less clutter, as I keep literally falling over stuff, and having to walk sideways- seriously! Together with this ghastly hot weather, which makes any serious activity impossible, not a lot has got done lately.
17th June
I suppose as it's called a professional I'll have to put it in 35, not toys.
14th June
A leaflet for a Specto analyser with a very odd colour scheme.
14th May
I'm sure I mentioned to you a while ago problems I had had with
Elfs suddenly coming to a full stop, the cause being a take-up belt doing what I
thought was impossible and wrapping itself around the lower pulley. I've been
meaning to have
a
go, and I just fitted a thing that may help - it's basically just a stripper.
The tricky bit was fitting it without altering the projector, always an
important consideration for me. Three screws hold a bit of 4mm brass rod to a
thin steel plate. The lower screw for the arm's cover goes thru the hole you
see, and the two screws near the top just keep the steel plate from pivoting,
because of there being only a single fixing hole - they don't go into anything,
they just locate the plate by being either side of the reinforcing rib. The
cover goes back on top and you can't tell there's anything there. I've no idea
if it will work; I'll get around to testing it one day.
10th May
Je me suis rendu compte que je m'occupe beaucoup des formats Pathé, Français. Alors, j'ai essayé de traduire en Français une de mes pages. J'espère que les amis Français m'excuseront si je fait des erreurs, ou de langue ou de fait. Les remarques seraient bienvenues. Voir Pathé Rural.
9th May
The silent Rural has only 500' spool arms - imagine showing eg Christus - (8 x 500'). If you should ever want to do such a thing, of course. So I am stealing the spool arms from several of my 16mm Rurals Sonores to provide "Super Arms". Nothing is ever easy, naturally. Pic one shows the ravages of Mazac on one of the take-up pulleys. The enclosure on top holds the brake mechanism, shown in exploded form alongside. As you can see, the wall of the enclosure is disintegrating and the pulley is warped a little out of shape. Pic 2 is my solution. I have sliced off the remains of the enclosure and fitted a new one, which has to have a rim to secure it to the pulley (with screws from the rear). I also skimmed the pulley to make it a bit neater. (The brass thing is just to hold it while I worked on it.) Finally, the spindle itself. The original 16mm one has just had the square part removed. What I then did, tho' I might not do it quite the same again (I was making it up as I went), was to turn the collar down a bit, then make a steel disc to go over it. I made the hole slightly small, then heated it and force-fitted it with a hammer. The problem is, the hole for the pin is about on the boundary of the two bits. It does work, but there has to be a better way. In this case, the pin is part screw-threaded and screws in from the back, where the screw-head is recessed.
2nd May
This shows the original type of retaining roller for the
hold-back sprocket on a Super Rural, together with my attempt to copy it. The
lump of aluminium is a length of bar, extensively shaped and cut about, with a
central bore for the long arm
with
the slot in it. This is needed because someone actually went to the trouble to
hack off the original lugs that carried the arm. Go figure. So I have had
to try to make a new pair of lugs, and a means of fixing them to the machine.
Tricky, as I have very little depth where it goes before hitting the shaft on
which the sprocket itself sits. Rendered even more difficult by the fact that,
in a masterpiece of design, the entire front arm assembly is one huge piece and
at some angles won't fit my machinery.
The first two show how the set-up should look, and how the second one actually does look. To call this bodgery of the worst kind is hardly enough. The next two show my restoration effort once completed. The third pic shows the replacement cover I made for the horrid abortion that had replaced the original sound reader.
Pic 1 above shows the layout of the soundhead area of the machine as I received it. The three small brass rollers are an addition, fixed to a plate located in a slot cut out of the face of the projector. You should be able to see the outline of the plate. You will note also that there is no middle sprocket. The idea of this piece of lunacy was to lengthen the film path in advance of the sound reader because of the issues I have discussed elsewhere over what is the proper length of sound separation as between French and English machines.
Pic 2 shows my first attempts to deal with this and restore the machine a bit. Not only had the third sprocket been removed, but the internal gears had been discarded too! I had new gears made; fortunately, how I know not, a third sprocket had somehow survived. I made a new plate and mounted a pair of rollers pivoted on this. As I received the machine, there was an arrangement of this type, but it had to be changed to accommodate the replaced middle sprocket. You will see the original sprocket retaining roller for the third sprocket had been removed and a plate mounted instead. To complete this little corner of madness, Pic 3 shows what was done to the top sprocket - it's supposed to be like a Debrie and is ingeniously done, but it don't work! This, too, will have to be restored. You will note the sprocket in this pic has holes in the side. All the sprockets on the other machine have a plate fixed here which is 38mm, about 2mm more in diameter than the sprocket, so forming a guide lip to help keep the film on the sprocket. I have made one from scratch, but it's hard work and not terribly satisfactory - you can see it in one of the pictures just above. For the other two, I have some repair washers of a diameter halfway between, ie 37mm or 1.5" which I will adapt.
30th April
Despite lack of reports, I have been working hard, first on my second 17.5 silent and then on trying to repair some of the ravages to my first Super Rural committed by a former owner. This is a continuation of work started before there even was a Cinerdistan! The silent machine is now a runner, with a rewound motor, a tranny (I chickened out of using the resistance and wired round it, fitting a separate lamp switch as per the first machine), and a 15v 150w dichroic mirror lamp. Mind you, I wonder if some projectors don't love me as they should - this one fought me every inch of the way. I made an improved barrel for the lens, dumping the copper tube. Then the lens stuck out the back and fouled the fan, so had to make and force fit a spacing washer at the end of the lens tube. Then the motor turned out to have been wound to turn the wrong way for this projector. Fortunately, I do know how to fix this. Typically for me, I haven't actually run any film yet.
The motor rewind was carried out for me by N J Motor Rewinders, 1587 London Rd, Leigh-on-sea, Essex SS9 2SG. Tel 01702 473 694. The price was about £50 excluding VAT and carriage, which I regard as exceptional value for such a specialised job. The fact that the motor turned the "wrong " way was because I never realised there was a choice and failed to specify.
I have closely examined the still picture mech on both silent machines, but I cannot see how it would work, at least with the machines as I got them. The shutter/heat filter inside the lamphouse is fine, but to achieve a still, the lever needs to push the main drive pulley away from the body of the machine, presumably against a spring, and disengaging some sort of clutch, so the motor can still run. Don't know how they would have dealt with the shutter on the occasions when it got in the way. Trouble is, at the moment, operating the lever causes the main drive shaft to jam as there is no movement available.
I have also been fettling up a Super Vox, not least by fitting a spare end cap to the motor, the original having Mazac'd. This is to replace on the standard Vox (see 28th Feb), which turned out to have an unstable pic, almost certainly due to grooves worn in the sides of the gate channel. Fixing this requires some very accurate machining out and fitting of new strips to forma clean edge. I bottled out, for the moment at least.
16th April
There is good news; it seems I shall after all be able to get the motor for my Rural re-wound at respectable cost, tho' I shall now have to unpick some of what I have done - ain't it always the way?
The first of these pix shows the donor motor, with the new pulley wot I made. I have fitted two x 2mm plug/socket thingies in existing holes in the top of the motor housing. These are from Maplin and I find them useful; be ready for them to cease being stocked almost at once therefore. These take the capacitor wires (remember, the sound machines used capacitor-run motors) down thru a hole I punched in the cardboard (or "shoddy", ie old-style suitcase material) sheet that sits between the motor housing/mech and the base. The capacitor itself is in the next pic; note the sophisticated mounting using a bent strip of metal. I have fitted a tranny, but have yet to wire it up.
The remaining pix are basically workshop shots to help me should I ever decide to restore the original set-up - please note that, as (nearly) ever, I have made no permanent changes that cannot be reversed ( bar that little hole in the cardboard). I have also left myself a little file note about the wiring, 'cos I know I won't remember it tomorrow let alone years from now.
The more I work on the silent Rural, the more I am impressed by its design and suitability for purpose. As the above pix show, all the electrics are in a single module, which removes with three screws and the disconnection of two wires. These are the two you can see flapping loose - they run between one leg of the power supply, via the ammeter, to the lamp socket. The motor and lamp connections are external. The drive from the motor to the mech is external too, so belt replacement is a cinch. The base is a very solid casting, maybe even iron. This is simplicity and design at its best - if anything goes wrong, it needs little skill or time to replace a module, be it electrics, motor, lamphouse or mech. The entire thing is robust, and came in a solid wooden crate for transport. In short, ideal for lugging round small villages and odd venues. And if one accepts, as I think I must, that the lamp is indeed controlled through the resistance mat, not a tranny, we have no AC/DC worries, and tolerance of a wide range of voltage, too. I am, however, not persuaded to remove the tranny.
On top of this, the design proved readily adaptable to sound with remarkably few changes. A design classic, I think.
14th April
The hideous loft upheaval is now at an end and I can finally get back into my cinema and find stuff.
Big event of recent times is a visit to France at the invite of one of the big collector/dealers, Alain Gomet. He is a big wheel in his world and was able to get us (Pat Moules and me) into the equipment stacks at the Cinémathèque Française, for example, not normally open to the public. Needless to say, a few bits and bobs came back with us. A full report will probably have to await the summer issue of Flickers.
Been plugging away at the silent Rural. I have repainted the
motor, tho' inevitably it immediately starts to acquire a new set of scratches
and knocks. Then, of course, the problems started. First off, the motor in the
Rurals is held in place by a single
knob that screws into the side of the motor casing. The motor housing is shaped
in part to match the curve of the motor and so help to hold it in place. Well.
First off, the way the blower fan fits to the motor is different - the silent
has a LH thread on the motor shaft and in the bore of the fan. So I had to take
the fan from the donor machine as well. Then I find that in fact there is a
subtle difference in the motor, which means it sits at a slight angle which, in
turn, means the fan is at a slight angle, so messing up the very tight
clearances and causing the fan to foul the motor housing. (it tends to make a
very bell-like ringing). The only thing I could think of was to make a "shoe" to
provide some support at the rear of the motor to straighten it up, using the
motor thru bolt as a fixing point. See pic. Another difference is in the oil
delivery system; the original was a robust piece of copper tube which would by
no means work with the donor motor. The little white tube you see by the top
motor fixing bolt is part of a cotton bud, which is hollow and has just enough
flexibility to ease around the bolt and get oil to the right place. Even now,
it's not quite right, and the fan keeps starting to ring if I don't get it set
up just right. I am therefore still pursuing plan A and finding out about
a possible rewind of the original motor.
Anyway, I got to the point where I could seriously test the machine by running it. I had been concerned from the start that there seemed to be a bit of binding in the mech, which appeared to arise from the cam being too tight at some parts of its rotation and too loose elsewhere. It would run with the motor, but was stiff and sometimes wouldn't start, leaving the belt slipping. I was afraid that I might have to actually make a replacement for one of the brass surfaces the cam rides on, not a task I would relish as it requires engineering of considerable precision and I'm not sure I can do it. I took the claw/cam mech apart and removed one of the brass surfaces - it just looks like a small bit of brass angle strip. There is already a pic of the claw/cam from my other machine which shows you what I mean. I puzzled over this for a day or two, and measured up the brass angle in case I needed to make one. Then I put the machine back together and, blow me if it didn't work fine! All the stiffness gone, the only problem being I don't really know what I did to make a difference.
Another thing I have done is to make the lens tube and lens mount.
Pic one is the view from the back of the machine - the lens sits in a long tube which reaches back from the front of the projector to close to the plane of the shutter - I'm guessing this is to help protect from oil splashes. I didn't fancy buying a bar of expensive aluminium only to turn most of it into swarf (which anyway is the principal product of a home workshop) by making a huge hole thru it and cutting away the outside as well to form a lip. (Top thing in pic 3 is the lens mount and lens from the other machine). So I managed to find a bit of thick-walled alu tube; this wasn't quite big enough to make the full lip you can see on the front end of the original, so I made a ring (steel) to fit over the alu and hold it in place (pic 2). I also had to make the screws as, although they are 3mm, are not the standard thread and so cannot be bought off the shelf. The lens is 40mm from a Bolex; the rear portion of the barrel was about the right size and I bored out my tube to match it. The front portion I cut off and fixed to the front of my new lens tube - the intermediate section is a bit of old standard copper water pipe. I haven't tried the lens yet - I suspect I may have to shorten the copper tube bit, as I am not at all sure I won't get the edges cut off - the original lens is a 55mm. It is very difficult to find a lens that will do the job - the absolute maximum possible size to fit within the lens mounting tube is 30mm diameter and, of course, it needs to have a wide rear element and be able to fit down at the bottom of that tube.
The little brass bit at the bottom of pic 3 is a replacement retaining nut I had to make for the blower fan. there are lugs on the back which engage with the shaft, but because of the slight differences with the donor motor, the lugs on the original were too short for it to work quite right - not all that clear as to why.
All this work - and I bet I end up with the old motor back. And still a lot more to do before it can leave the garage and join the good, working projectors in the loft. And I still have not resolved the issue of the lamp - I am told that a slightly larger version of the familiar sort of resistance mat serves to take the lamp power supply from 110v down to 15v 200w. My first Rural I didn't even know of this and fitted a tranny; I'm still dubious and highly reluctant.
31st March
I have told you about the 17.5mm silent Rural/Rex projector I bought at Argenteuil last year, and my various trials and tribulations in setting it up and making it work and making a new claw. This year, I bought another, along with a batch of films. If you look in the advertising section, at the Rural programmes, there is a long index that I have reproduced. Among the films I acquired were at least 2 parts of Programme 91, viz, "Comment j'ai tué mon enfant", 6 reels, and "Un bon petit coeur", 2 reels. The feature is in very good shape, but the comedy short is fine in Reel 1, then reel 2 has ever-increasing "water damage", as I call it, where the emulsion is faded in patches, severely roughened in others and in some parts has been more or less completely stripped off. It becomes so frequent that I doubt the film is viewable. Oh well, could be a source of leader!
Anyway, as usual, there are problems. Inevitably, one buys largely on sight (or someone else gets it) and takes the chance. I could see it had no lens or lens barrel, but I was sure that was readily fixable. What I had not bargained for was finding the motor was dead to the world, despite looking in very good condition. This is not necessarily the end of the world; it is possible to have motors rewound, tho' very costly. Or one could remove the innards and fit a different motor within the original case. I am actually going to try out yet a third approach. I have a total of 4 Rurals Sonores, all converted to 16mm. One I have restored to working order as a 16mm machine, one is a long-term conversion-back-to- 17.5 project. The other two are in very poor condition, and would be a major project to restore even as 16mm machines. I have therefore pinched the motor out of one of them to fit to my silent machine. There are snags; obviously the sound-projector motor has a condenser, and runs at a fixed speed so as to deliver 24fps. What I have done therefore is to make a new pulley, rather smaller but not, I think, quite down to two-thirds the size of its original. Hopefully this will deliver a speed somewhere around 18fps. Virtually all the paint had peeled off this motor, so I have done a re-spray, with lots of masking off the bits that need protecting from the paint (Hammmerite satin black). Never easy, eh? I've also re-sprayed the rear cooling fan cover, after filling a couple of holes where the Mazac had split off. I will keep you posted.
15th March
Been rummaging in the ACW folder again and have added a number of extra shots to the Silent to Sound section, including a Baby projector sound-on-disc set-up.
Obviously, cine enthusiasts were showing considerable mechanical ingenuity, and it was no doubt the same in many other hobby areas. The question is, unless you believe all this mechanical aptitude suddenly vanished from the human genome, where has all that ingenuity and effort been directed? What are the people who would otherwise have been converting cine projectors actually doing with their time now? Do they find it just as satisfying, whatever it is, or do they harbour buried, unrecognised urges to nerdery that modern life gives them no opportunity to fulfil?
Somebody actually reads this! Paul Schimmel says
"Where are the nerds is a good question; a few years back they were building
PCs, but this is becoming harder. Younger ones are fitting blue LEDs to the
bottom of their Corsas. I help with a youth group and something I generally
notice among the youngsters is no real interest in how things work. In my
teenage days I didn't have much money and scraped together a HiFi system etc
repairing as I went. These days with everything made in China and very cheap the
thought of opening it up and fixing it doesn't seem to occur to anyone.
It does have to be said that whilst a cine projector can often be repaired a DVD
player represents a different challenge: Clean lens, oil spindle motor is about
all that can be done."
I worry that this frustration of the nerdish urge may break out in some unfortunate way.
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